Оказывается у иудеев было сакраментальное рукоположение

[Денис В.Н.]

[Денис В.Н.]

Я нашел и ответ иудейского раввина, который подтверждает, что ранее у них было рукоположение, но было утеряно, в результате чего цепочка прервалась:

 

Что говорит иудаизм о рукоположении? — вопросы раввину | Иудаизм и евреи на Толдот.ру

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Вот под этим видео

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd8UQmwKgBg&lc=UgwIeSqhI19oF2zfQTR4AaABAg

 

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«In the Talmud it talks about the keys to the First Temple which in the midst of being destroyed the young priests took the keys up a mountain and shouted to God to forgive them for not being able to protect the Temple and they threw the keys towards the sky and a palm reached down and grabbed the keys. So the keys of the temple is not just symbolic.

 

Jesus knows the Second Temple will be destroyed, He has those very keys to the first Temple and He presents the keys to Peter.»

 

 

Получается ключи на небо улетели, ковчег исчез (2Макк. 2:4—8), передача смихи прервалась.

 

 

А тут пришёл Иешуа Машиах вручил ключи Скале, установил передачу смихи, Ковчег (Деву Марию) с собой на небо забрал. Любопытная цепочка намечается.

 

P.S.

Да ещё Храм разрушен и новый установлен (Церковь).

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Вот полная цитата от пользователя Saint Charbel Miracleworker (интересно в целом)

 

"From conception the Church was an OFFICIAL sect within Judaism. If you read Acts 1 and if you are familiar with Halakhah Law you will immediately notice that the Church is a legal entity WITHIN Judaism. There are 3 requirements which are met.

 

Notice that there are 120 members in this synagogue. Why is this important? It is the exact number of persons in the Halakhah regulations to form a full fledged synagogue. Next according to Halakhah regulations there must be a "beit din" (Hebrew court) formed. We see that there is a beit din and it draws lots and Matthias a disciple is chosen to take over Judas bishopric (episkopen). So two of the three requirements are met.

 

The third requirement is that there must be a nasi (prince/temporal) and ab ( father/spiritual) appointed. Curiously Peter is filling both these positions in this beit din. Why?

 

In 190 BC the Kohan Gadol (high priest office) fell into apostasy and beit din gadol cast a vote of no confidence splitting the two offices of the kohan gadol into the "nasi" and the "ab" within the beit din gadol. However, in this new beit din which is actually a beit din gadol (70 disciples) Christ has placed His confidence in Peter by presenting him the Keys to the temple and bringing the two offices back together the way it originally was. The pope has both temporal and spiritual powers. Peter is the prince of the apostles and the pope (Pope meaning papa - meaning father) as you see even today the pope is both nasi and the ab in Catholicism.

 

Christ appointed Peter as His steward with the keys as per Isaiah 22 vs 19-24. It doesn't mean the other apostles (successors) were/are sidelined, they had/have an equal place, Peter is just First amongst equals. In the davidic kingdoms there was always an al-bayith (steward), that is Peters role.

 

First book of Kings lists all the Kings and it always has the royal steward/vizier listed next to the King as well because in the absence of the King he was in charge of the Kingdom. The steward is given the sash/robes/keys to the temple because the role is also a priestly role.(Rashi/Jewish sage writes a commentary on the priestly role of the steward/vizier and the keys are the keys of the temple and government.

 

Jesus instituted a new temple, reinstitute the Melchizedek priesthood in a new davidic kingdom and placed Peter as the steward and the (rock/Cepha). The Eben Shetia the foundation rock of Solomons Temple which the ark lay upon) as in the Talmud, Mishnah and Baraita - the Jews believed that this Eben Shetia rock was placed by God's hand during creation at the very spot that the holy of holies of Solomons Temple was built and from this spot the rest of creation was spread. Jesus by His hand placed the rock/Peter/Cepha in the middle of the pagan Roman Empire and from there this small “cult” destroyed paganism and installed christianity in its place by the power of Christ and it spread throughout the Roman Empire eventually becoming the State religion (a new creation).

 

In the Talmud it talks about the keys to the First Temple which in the midst of being destroyed the young priests took the keys up a mountain and shouted to God to forgive them for not being able to protect the Temple and they threw the keys towards the sky and a palm reached down and grabbed the keys. So the keys of the temple is not just symbolic. Jesus knows the Second Temple will be destroyed, He has those very keys to the first Temple and He presents the keys to Peter."

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